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Roulette strategy

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Roulette strategy

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Right like some of us do we flick threw youtube at some of the videos people put up about strategy's..And one guys i looked at and decided to test it but test it on a none live table under "Free play" And it seemed to work ..Now this guy is not asking for money or there's no dodgy things involved where he earn from it ,so i tried it threw 100 spins and i was well ahead ..Are there really strategy's out there that work for roulette id post the link but i think that be breaking the rules of sort ..But just wondered if anyone thinks anything involving them are real/truthful..The guy does say do it at like a roulette table linked to a live one because standing round a live dealer will bring heat ..Or do people just keep there own little tips to themselves like there own secret they would rather not talk about ? .

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The short answer is no betting strategy - regardless of what it is - will ever overcome the house edge built into roulette. They may be fun to play with, but they don't establish a mathematically provable edge over the house.

There are ways to beat roulette involving roulette bonuses (generally involving betting big to create a number of smaller losses followed by a big win), but it's involves discipline and not many players can control themselves enough to make profit in the long run. Many people feel it takes the fun out of playing.

As to the fact that this person isn't charging for the system I'd point to this article on betting strategies by blackjack guru Arnold Snyder - http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/con ... xperts.htm - funny and very accurate.

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Lol that was a funny read but very true read haha ..You or me could do the same ..Pm me if you fancy it lmao jks .But ive read places where even affs open bike good looking sites about how easy it is to beat casinos of course everyone pays 5 dollars for this magic tool of course some go onto win most go onto lose ..But there is one winner the guy who just sold something with no meaning just like this story .

What i found weird about the one i found it was not like cover 2 rows of this and stick something on this number it was all to do with read and black ..Maybe i was on of the ones to find it worked for me when i tried it ? Maybe it did work for everyone and they got greedy and it changed things ..After all this guy said try a live casino /He was not asking for more money but showing for free ..But when watching it i found one thing i kept looking for ..Not sure if anyone's seen they silly videos that go about with the card trick where the guy pics your card of course he does not pic your card he pics everyone's its old now ..But i was looking for where the scam was entered ..No doubt if i watch further more into it il find it lol

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This is another question id like to ask ..Lets say i had my own theory or strategy that worked for me ..Or gave me in my eyes edge over the house would i get banned from casinos lets say i was winning £50 a day and was doing so every day ..Surly these casinos would put a stop to it ?

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There is no system to beat roulette. Full stop. As long as the wheel is fair, what has come up before has no influence over what will come up next. If I toss a coin 5 time and it comes up heads five times, does that make tails more likely to come up next? The answer is no and it's the same with red and black on the roulette wheel. If roulette was that easy to beat there wouldn't be a casino left in business!

Here's another good article that discusses why past events don't influence the future - http://beyondnumbers.lvablog.com/2013/1 ... happens/As to why the guy's giving the system away free, there could be a number of reasons but the most likely is that he's had a (mathematically) short term successful run with this system and genuinely believes that it'll beat the house.
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A good casino will let you bet all day and all night regardless of whether you're consistently (mathematical short term) coming out ahead. In fact casinos love system players. The Martin Gale progression will result in lots of small wins for the player and that's what fools players into thinking it will work long term. Unfortunately it will also infrequently generate a catastrophic loss for the player that will more than wipe out the small wins.

Of course there are casinos that don't understand the theory behind the games they run and include rules against system bettors, but these casinos should be avoided simply because they have such a weak understanding of their business model.
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Cheers for the reply's and i was ready to say "but the persons who spins the wheel may do it different" but so will the guy flipping the coin lol ..I will say exactly what it was i read up on and tried ..Now the guy does say play at a live table where in my theory would be to play on a online casino because the patterns to sometimes favor this "strategy" When you look at numbers coming out on roulette allot of the time you see say 2/3 black and then 2/3 reds ..So it goes like this and maybe its no exactly a strategy id call it more like something that works for people and maybe not others ..Right so your at the wheel you stick £1 on red ..And red comes out ..You then stick another £1 on red ..And it comes out ..Then you repeat it and black comes out ..You stick £2 on black and allot of the times from my testing does come out ..But lets say red comes out then you double up and stick it on red ..I tried it with £5 and the plan is to win £50 if betting in £10 chips i done it via 10p chips and got up to £10 ...I then left it closed the game had a cig and played a few other games going down to £4 , so starts again 10p bets and got up to £10..Now this is not a strategy when i write it out its merely something someone finds good for winning a theory ..But if you were a millionaire you could do this no bother £1000 chips all your doing is doubling up ..Like the "strategy" i read on blackjack if you lose double up until you win lol ..I will keep mucking about with that little theory ..But i do see the guy who told the story about its meaning when you look at numbers out its always say a few red a few black ..If you follow the way he goes ule be on they numbers unless it goes red/black/red/black so on ..But cheers for the answer ..I think the wording "strategy" is where the guys went wrong more along the lines of his theory

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I ment to say ..If you place a chip on red and it does not come out ..You then place 2 chips on black ..And if it does not come out you double up again ..The min you hit a winner u start betting with the 1 chip lol confusing a tad

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All of these systems rely on previous results influencing future results and it's just not true.

For instance red coming out does NOT IN ANY WAY make black more likely to come out on the next spin. Probability doesn't work like that. The wheel doesn't know what colour came out last and can't influence what colour will come out next.

There are games where the past effects the future (blackjack - if an ace has already come out it can't come out again). Roulette isn't one of them and this is why no betting system will ever gain a long term edge over the house regardless of how simple or complex. They may have positive results in what's referred to as the mathematical short term but they're more likely to have negative results. Try enough of them and eventually you will find a system that gives you the short term gains that you're looking for, but I'd be a lier if I told you you'll make money over the long term.
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Cheers for the reply .

I totally get what you mean .I have read that a croupier can spin a ball to an area or a number they want , so no matter what happens there is only going to be a short run at this like you say ,for example lets say "my theory" was working ,I think it would soon change what i have noticed is this ..Right people say there's a red/black strategy (just keep doubling up) this is just silly ..U could need millions to make this work ,but then again you can make it work on the short term..I tried my theory on your free casino and it worked ..I then tried it again it come red/black/red/black/0 that's it game over your now chasing a big lose..On Youtube where i found this theory i did notice that it felt like it was giving me an edge as lets say it went on a run of blacks or reds id be on them ,that's where it makes it sound like its working ,but if i was betting the main board and covering mostly black id be on a roll to or if i was betting the numbers that were popping out ..If there was something there like you say with blackjack once an ace is out you no how much is left ,and same goes for poker if your holding 2 aces you no how much are left in the game , with roulette there's nothing that's changing..And something tells me if a croupier was spinning into an area where people were winning things would soon change ..What i have found out that in my eyes yes if your playing short spells it works ..If you want to spin for hours you can be soon sitting in a position where you have to put £500000000 on one color to keep it going ..And that comes right back to a toss of the coin.Cheers for the reply :)

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