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Paradise - underage gamble

Ruling

Declined - This complaint is a copy/paste of another complaint submitted by an individual that was mis-representing their age. The similarities between the claims are untenable.

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Player's Complaint

A short description of your claims: I was very shocked when i heard my son say he lost over a 1000 euro's overnight on Paradise Casino.

In combination with the fact that i was very shocked I was also very amazed about how this could happen.

It should be impossible for under age teenagers to create an account at Paradise and deposit over hundreds of euro's and then be able to play casino games.

Thats why I think it's not normal that a underage boy can deposit his whole savings without being asked for identification. My question is if it might be possible to return all the deposits to my son's bank account? and at the same time block his Casino account?

License info I received from MGA:

the MGA states as follows in the following documents:1- " Where a minor, notwithstanding the checks put in place by the B2C licensee, manages to make use of the gaming service, the B2C licensee, as soon as it becomes aware that such player is a minor, shall take all necessary steps to prevent such minor from making further use of its gaming service and to return the minor to the state in which the minor was prior to playing, returning any monies wagered and confiscating all winnings, if any."

2- (a document for audits to take place with licensees) states: " Check whether the Licensee has policies/procedures in place in order to prevent minors that manage to register from making further use of its gaming service and in order to return any deposited/wagers funds and confiscate all winnings."

I have already opened a complaint on AskGamblers with my underage son.

Greetings,

[EDIT]

Attachments: ID.

He’s account email is: [EDIT]

Answer from Paradise Casino: He violated our T&C while registering with an other date of birth, so no refund shall apply. THEY MUST REFUND HIM! He lost all his savings and a underage boy cant see the consequences of gambling!!!

Casino website: paradisecasino.com

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3 Responses

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ThePOGG
January 31, 2020

Hi splitace - welcome to ThePOGG.com!

As we are the ADR for the N1 Interactive Ltd license under the Malta Gaming Authority license there is certain information we have to provide you now.

You can find all the relevant information about this service here – http://thepogg.com/terms-of-use/ and the terms of use for our complaint service here - https://thepogg.com/terms-of-use-for-dispute-resolution-service/

To summarise.

– Use of this service does not preclude your seeking redress through court proceedings .

– This service is free to use for both the complainant and operator.

– At any point during the procedure the submitting party retains the right to withdraw their complaint. This does not preclude our right to continue the discussion with the involved operator of general issues related to the complaint (i.e. insufficiently clear terms and conditions).

– You are not obliged to obtain independent or legal advice or representation, though you may choose to do so.

If you have any questions about the above, let me know.

Before we go any further I need you to clarify certain aspects of your submission.

I'm looking to understand why your complaint shares such stark and obviously apparent characteristics with a very similar complaint - the only other complaint we have received regarding underage play against this license - submitted several months ago? You can see the complaint in question here - https://thepogg.com/en-ie/complaint/spinia-underage-gambling-from-netherlands/.

Large sections of your submission are word for word identical to the previous complaint, replacing only the name of yourself, your son and the specific casino. The similarities are beyond that which could reasonably be explained by coincidence - even down to your residence being in the same small country the the original complaint was submitted from.

So I need you to explain why you have chosen to copy that specific complaint, especially when the conclusion of that complaint was an irrefutable demonstration that the claim being made by the complainant was non-legitimate in nature an the activities involved forced us to discontinue any involvement in the claim?

ThePOGG

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SplitAce
January 31, 2020

Dear, Iam [EDIT]'s mother and found several the same complaints, because I dont understand online gambling at all. Thats why I made an Identic message. They let my son from 17 play while he's 17, he wanted to cashout and send he's ID, and they saw he was 17 and they closed his account and they paid nothing back. That's illegal right?

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ThePOGG
January 31, 2020

Hi SplitAce,

I'm afraid that simply does not align with the facts here.

In the first instance there are not "several complaints" constructed in the manner that you have constructed this complaint. Google searches for various unusual phrase constructions from your submission return only a single page result - our page that was referenced above. This complaint has not been duplicated across multiple sites.

You claim to be the person's mother - exactly as the last complaint.

You claim your son was exactly the same age as the previous complaint - a fact that was later demonstrated to be absolutely without basis in fact.

This issue just so happens to have occurred at exactly the same license where the previous claim was made.

Of all of the places in the world that this operator functions, you just so happen to be resident in the same country as the previous claimant.

The above similarities strike me as beyond that which can be reasonably explained as coincidence. As such - and taking into consideration the circumstances and ruling of the previous claim that you have chosen to base your submission on - we will be declining to review this issue.

I would direct you to consider pursuing your claim via legal channels if you feel it is legitimate. Our understanding is that GreenTableLegal.com offer a no win, no fee service that specialised in the remote gambling market.

Thanks,

ThePOGG

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SplitAce consented for ThePOGG to act on their behalf and share the personal information that they provide to ThePOGG with the following agencies for the purposes of resolving their complaint:

  • Paradise
  • Malta Gaming Authority
  • N1 Interactive Ltd

January 31, 2020

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